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Post by Blother Had Me Like on Sept 5, 2012 2:31:53 GMT
The problem with the garfish, when accounting for actual usability and not possible combinations, is that it is extremely expensive for a mediocre unit. Anything level 2 or 3 has too high of an electricity cost to really even be considered. Its defense is great, but when considered for decent meat it is out shined by cheaper possibilities with abilities that suit meat better, i.e. not frenzy. Level 4 and 5 Range tend to thrive a long with flying and the garfish cannot make many good combinations for these needs. I could see this unit being used as a cheaper level 5 with meat and low melee, but it is difficult to pair with the bigger stock because its only attack is on the head, similar to the attacks on these stock.
There may be some uses for the garfish with more water accessibility in OT. I'll take a look at come more combos as well, but i doubt there will be much that is very good.
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Post by Sawslig Steve. And William. on Sept 5, 2012 2:35:35 GMT
Gar is better in OT than it used to be. It's... Not exactly OP, but it's probably useable in a couple situations. Mister Swimmy's a bastard, for instance.
But Blother raises good points... Matt, what can we cheapen to make it more useful?
Also that Floe comment reminds me. What'chall think of the new maps?
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Post by thedoktor on Sept 5, 2012 2:47:21 GMT
Played a game on Rift and liked the set-up. with OT it's a good control point type map to get a good Navy and control that water-way in the centre.
What if you took away the Frenzy for Gar and left it as a high def, Camo unit? Would that work? It's been ages since I've really messed with this and I'm pretty rusty :/
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Post by Blother Had Me Like on Sept 5, 2012 2:48:21 GMT
Gar is better in OT than it used to be. It's... Not exactly OP, but it's probably useable in a couple situations. Mister Swimmy's a bastard, for instance. But Blother raises good points... Matt, what can we cheapen to make it more useful? Also that Floe comment reminds me. What'chall think of the new maps? I just took a quick look at the garfish and it does seem a little cheaper. It is just odd though for a frenzy unit because it has more survivability and not as much damaged as is expected with more common combos, like praying mantis combos. I wouldn't change anything with it yet because I may be wrong and someone might find a interesting use for it. I haven't gotten the chance to play on many of the new maps, but from what i have seen I love them ;D I am so glad to see maps that are actually team oriented. I think it is a big part of this game that has been missing for forever. I feel like people can actually work together rather than the old "team" style of picking who you 1v1 against with a few expos that are fought over. Really looking forward to playing them.
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Post by Blother Had Me Like on Sept 5, 2012 2:50:35 GMT
Played a game on Rift and liked the set-up. with OT it's a good control point type map to get a good Navy and control that water-way in the centre. What if you took away the Frenzy for Gar and left it as a high def, Camo unit? Would that work? It's been ages since I've really messed with this and I'm pretty rusty :/ That might work... There aren't really any low level tanky water units. Most are pretty squishy. Depends on how useful it would be compared to using whales for meat at level 3.
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Post by KingSpode on Sept 7, 2012 14:20:30 GMT
Great update! ;D I'm really digging this lol
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2012 16:04:51 GMT
The maps do have some problems though, like the cliffs and certain things where you can't place towers on the turf, and you can place some on the cliffs themselves, but these are small so don't do out and fix them, thanks for making them anyway, about about my saying f-you and all that in other topics, not really serious just spamming.
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Post by MERRY CROMBMAS! on Sept 19, 2012 18:50:08 GMT
depeche mode
holy fuck you really have serious problems with taste and heterosexuality
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Post by thedoktor on Sept 19, 2012 18:58:43 GMT
NIgga please Depeche MOde is great.
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Post by MERRY CROMBMAS! on Sept 19, 2012 19:25:52 GMT
no, youre wrong
theyre a fucking 80s synth band
that cant be good
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Post by thedoktor on Sept 19, 2012 19:26:52 GMT
you like Radiohead unironically your opinion is invalid
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Post by MERRY CROMBMAS! on Sept 19, 2012 19:36:56 GMT
I LIKE RADIOHEAD?
WELL, FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY
IN FACT, THOM YORKE IS PROBABLY YOUR FATHER AND HE RAPED HIS BROTHER TO MAKE YOU TO CONTINUE THE TRADITION OF INCEST THAT SPAWNED THE RETARDATION THAT IS RADIOHEAD AND ITS MEMBERS
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2012 23:56:38 GMT
"What a strange person!"
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Post by Sawslig Steve. And William. on Sept 20, 2012 4:45:15 GMT
P.S. For the record Radiohead is actually fantastic.
It's just a shame that the hipsters got 'em.
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Post by MERRY CROMBMAS! on Sept 20, 2012 11:28:24 GMT
P.S. For the record Radiohead is actually fantastic. It's just a shame that the hipsters got 'em. no and let me tell you why because i dont think i ever did its fake forced creativity for the sake of being "creative" and "different" its like shitting on a well known sculpture and calling it creative, offensive, modern art but its still fucking shit on a sculpture applied to radiohead, its forcing long, weird melodies so they sound different and "arty" but in reality it sounds like a cat being raped in all holes with redwood trees(except in the mouth so it can still make sounds) the melodies sound like when you give a three year old child a piano, fucking mindless dissonant sounds because the child doesnt know what its doing and then thom yorke comes up and does the same thing with his voice and actually gets acknowledgement and tons of money what the actual fuck wait this is really creepy, creep actually appeared on vh1 on the tv right behind me while im writing this GET THE FUCK OUT WHY ARE YOU FOLLOWING ME theyre no different than any of the other shit indie bands that pull off stuff like guitars out of tune and singing out of key then saying its intentional its really sad because the band could actually make good rock music with excellent riffs(theres a song with a brilliant riff but i cant remember the name) if they just stopped shitting all over their music for the sake of creativity its not like its true creativity: it's all the same chords and song structure you see in the music industry all over the place, they just layer shit vocal after shit vocal and call it creativity and expression this is how creativity sounds if done right. it fits the mood of the songs without actually sacrificing vocal power and the melodies it does this with various instruments and chords i have never heard before that i cant even play and all the instruments aside from the flute at the end are played by noely g himself which shows how much even the least skilled among the musicians can accomplish if he actually does his job right everything in that song fits. the impact of drums when they first appear, that sound effect after the black hole bit that emerges the end again, the cymbals of the drums sounding like the ocean coming to drown you as you go cold turkey thats how its fucking done radiohead would just do some random sad song and put eerie vocals on it do you see where im going? they pretend to be something theyre not and do it the laziest way possible doing nothing but fucking the music industry up even more because that's the standard they set for future "indie creative" bands EDIT: holy fuck this post is much longer than i expected the formatting is of course perfectly on purpose and i did it because it looks arty and isnt a gimmick at all EDIT2: and i tried to remain objective here, theres a million other things they do that defies my expectations of music and musicians in general this post would be thrice as big and thrice as good EDIT3: thrice is a very cool word thrice as cool as once
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