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Post by thedoktor on Nov 15, 2012 23:09:13 GMT
My bad, fondling when you bring up animals in a topic dedicated to suggesting animals for future IC installments, that I would think you were suggesting those animals for future IC installments.
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Post by MERRY CROMBMAS! on Nov 15, 2012 23:14:40 GMT
...Maybe I was.
Now what would a flightless dimorphodontid add to gameplay?
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Post by Sawslig Steve. And William. on Nov 16, 2012 3:33:39 GMT
Addie, stop trolling. xd.
Why does that possibly make it any more likely that a terrestrial pterosaur would've evolved? Crocodiles already have all the hardware needed to be hypercarnivorous. Pterosaurs, on the other hand, have to go back on millions of years of evolution. Which is hard for them because they are innately fragile in nature. It's super possible, of course, but it would probably have to occur somewhere without any major predators-- for instance, an island. Like I said before, what happened with birds would probably happen with pterosaurs-- but it would be even harder for pterosaurs to become terrestrial because they're more specialised for flight (or at least, specialised in ways less suitable for adaptation).
I will point out that island (I forget where. Somewhere Europey?) where they discovered those dwarf sauropods alongside gigapterosaurs. I reckon that's your best bet for a flightless pterosaur right there. Personally, I want to believe that even the bigfuckoff azdarchids could fly, but if you were looking for one that couldn't, that one had all the potential-- found on a tiny island, lacking predators that could tackle it, surrounded by easy prey. Evolution could have made them lizard-aepyornis.
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Post by MERRY CROMBMAS! on Nov 16, 2012 19:13:45 GMT
Addie, stop trolling. xd. Why does that possibly make it any more likely that a terrestrial pterosaur would've evolved? Crocodiles already have all the hardware needed to be hypercarnivorous. Pterosaurs, on the other hand, have to go back on millions of years of evolution. Which is hard for them because they are innately fragile in nature. It's super possible, of course, but it would probably have to occur somewhere without any major predators-- for instance, an island. Like I said before, what happened with birds would probably happen with pterosaurs-- but it would be even harder for pterosaurs to become terrestrial because they're more specialised for flight (or at least, specialised in ways less suitable for adaptation). I will point out that island (I forget where. Somewhere Europey?) where they discovered those dwarf sauropods alongside gigapterosaurs. I reckon that's your best bet for a flightless pterosaur right there. Personally, I want to believe that even the bigfuckoff azdarchids could fly, but if you were looking for one that couldn't, that one had all the potential-- found on a tiny island, lacking predators that could tackle it, surrounded by easy prey. Evolution could have made them lizard-aepyornis. Sir puggy pls. As was stated in the link, the herbivorous flightless pterosaurs inhabited bleak cliff faces that couldn't be reached by herbivorous dinosaurs. And as for the fact that pterosaurs have to go back millions of evolution to get flightless, that's a load of malarke. Birds are fragile too, yet you see cassowaries coming up and killing dogs, emus fucking around in the bush, and ostriches getting chased by cheetahs. And, willy, it depends on the pterosaur. Obviously pterosaurs like dimorphodon would be bad candidates for flightlessness, but some of the more terrestrial pterosaurs could become flightless, given the time and reason to hang up their wings.
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Post by Sawslig Steve. And William. on Nov 17, 2012 3:40:32 GMT
Cliff faces? Then why lose flight? Cliff faces are pretty vertical places. Besides, cliffs invariably have warm air currents flowing up them-- so if you have lovely wing membranes, it's probably more efficient to glide than to climb, see. In any case, if you're a species living on a cliff face, it seems unlikely that you'd lose wings-- the first individuals to lose flight would probably plummet to their deaths off the cliff, and so the flight genes would remain undiluted. Furthermore again, it seems unlikely that a strong population of herbivores would even live on a cliff face, because cliff faces aren't exactly ideal places for plants.
Birds are fragile, too, but they're less fragile-- and they haven't sacrificed as much, anatomically, as pterosaurs have to achieve flight.
P.S. Cassowaries will fuck your shit up. They're great. I saw a bunch of them in Cairns.
I know, dude. I said that-- read my second paragraph in the post you quoted, yo.
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Post by MERRY CROMBMAS! on Nov 17, 2012 11:54:35 GMT
Also
Some tapejarids favored the herbivorous part of their omnivore diet so much that they had to get a bigger gut. Eventually, they lost flight altogether.
As for cliff faces, these already herbivorous pterosaurs needed to loose flight because of their gut.
But evolution has a tendancy to put species in radical evolutionary paths. Take, for example, amphibians, the first verterbrates, and any whale.
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Post by Sawslig Steve. And William. on Nov 17, 2012 12:43:44 GMT
Why would herbivores evolve on a cliff face. There's more plant life...
Basically anywhere.
I'm not saying flightless pterosaurs are impossible. Once again, read that paragraph I wrote.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2012 19:23:33 GMT
A pamphlet mod would be pretty awesome though, considering that you made a Water animals exp.
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Post by Sawslig Steve. And William. on Nov 19, 2012 4:21:44 GMT
Aye, it would be pretty cool.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2012 20:26:38 GMT
Ok here's my official animals that would be nice list, this also includes other species everyone else might be open to.
-Badger [European, American, or Ratel] -Bear [Black, Sun, Sloth, Asiatic Black, Cave, or Spectacled] -Otter [American River, European River, Giant, Sea, or Enhydriodon] -Cassowary [Southern, Northern, or Dwarf] -Panda [Giant, or Red] -Beaver [North American River, Eurasian, or Giant]
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Post by MERRY CROMBMAS! on Nov 23, 2012 17:56:54 GMT
You know what would be cool?
Hatzegopteryx. Now what would it add to tell?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2012 22:02:05 GMT
The IC Animals Idea List: ~Flamingo ~Rabbit ~Galápagos Tortoise ~Arctic Fox ~Flying Squirrel ~Deer ~Cassowary ~Hoatzin ~Peregrine Falcon ~Red-tailed Hawk ~Mosquito ~House Fly ~Sloth ~Raccoon ~Centipede ~Trapdoor Spider ~Puffin ~Hummingbird ~Luna Moth ~Hooded Pitohui ~Quail ~Southern Giant Petrel ~Stinkpot Turtle ~Lammergeier This list of animals was made up by Doktor and me.
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Post by Blother Had Me Like on Dec 5, 2012 18:30:49 GMT
They all suck.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2012 19:17:24 GMT
Thanks for the compliment!
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Post by Sawslig Steve. And William. on Dec 6, 2012 7:23:06 GMT
I don't think you know what a compliment is.
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