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Post by Sawslig Steve. And William. on May 2, 2011 15:10:11 GMT
... How does that prove they weren't hoaxes?
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Post by Byamarro on May 2, 2011 15:18:30 GMT
If we will think like that, then how to prove that tapirs exist? Or giant squids? It can be photomontage. If we will think like that about every thing that are awesome we will be blind old gingerbreads...
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Post by Sawslig Steve. And William. on May 2, 2011 15:37:20 GMT
Wish I was a gingerbread. Also we know tapirs and giant squids exist because we have proof of both of them-- some of us have even Seen live tapirs. And they've managed to capture a giant squid on film, not to mention preserving a bunch of their corpses.
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Post by Byamarro on May 2, 2011 15:43:58 GMT
Ok so dinosaurs not even existed. We don't have any movie proof or peoples who saw life dinosaurs.
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Post by MERRY CROMBMAS! on May 2, 2011 17:24:05 GMT
Oh god. I'm about to get into an actual factual argument now. *note to self: don't take this personal Alright, here we go. LEEEEEEEEEEEEEROOOOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYY JEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNKKKKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINSSSSS I'm quoting myself here because I'm cool like that: We haven't found any bones or any kind of cultural or material proof that there is another intelligent species, particulary a species that shares our genome. You haven't addressed this post at all. Please do. Those skeletons mean nothing without appropriate biological and culturological background. What were you actually implying with that pic? That there's an unknown civilization of giants? Then tell me, why aren't we seeing consistent material residue of such species? Why do we see random freaks of nature appearing in random intervals of time? On dinosaurs: we have consistent material evidence. Each species has been confirmed with at least a dozen skeletons. Moreover, the dinosaurs fit perfectly into the evolutionary tree, filling the gap that would've existed in their time perfectly. Your implied "giant civilisation" does NOT fit into any known plausible evolutionary tree. Also, as Matt said, people that high would have extreme issues while walking straight. If they did indeed evolve into that giant proportions, they wouldn't have retained the ability of walking upright, as the pressure on the human-shaped spine would break it as soon as it tried to stand. If there was indeed a bipedal species that indeed involved from a common ancestor from us, it would've changed in appearance greatly. Its spine would be at least 10 times as thick as ours, its legs would need to be thicker as well. It would need an enormous amount of calories per day to maintain health. The amount of calories needed to power such a beast could NEVER be sustained by our current form of agriculture and cattle farming. If such a civilization did indeed exist, it'd exhaust all possible food of its natural habitat in under a year and would need to migrate vast distances constantly. As such, that civilization would leave a path of destruction of its previous habitats which would be easily noticeable even if it happened 2 million years ago. Note that it couldn't have happened earlier, as your hypothesis implies that the species you're talking about evolved from homo sapiens, which first appeared 2 million years ago. You will now think about them having their last city/village on an undiscovered island, or in the middle of an unexplored jungle. If you have indeed though of that, read the previous paragraph again. Such a species would need an insane amount of food. It could NOT sustain itself on a small area. Also, I'd like to see your source on that pic.
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Post by Byamarro on May 2, 2011 19:13:06 GMT
I belived evolution theory (Yes, that is still only theory), but short time ago i just thinked, and now I don't belive that. It's completly nonsense that thunder made capable of reproduction microbes who was have completed RNA/DNA and it evolved into human. Do You know what is evolution? Evolution are random DNA mutations. Are you really belive that microbe can evolve to human by RANDOM mutations? It' like saying that factory can become city by random abrasion cogs and circuits in electronics. That is completly nonsense. IMHO reliance to evolution theory is not any proof.
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Post by the mut man on May 2, 2011 22:55:22 GMT
herp derp here we go
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Post by MERRY CROMBMAS! on May 2, 2011 23:44:05 GMT
Are you guys (minus Matt) seriously incapable of using ?
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Post by MERRY CROMBMAS! on May 3, 2011 0:02:25 GMT
I belived evolution theory (Yes, that is still only theory), but short time ago i just thinked, and now I don't belive that. It's completly nonsense that thunder made capable of reproduction microbes who was have completed RNA/DNA and it evolved into human. Do You know what is evolution? Evolution are random DNA mutations. Are you really belive that microbe can evolve to human by RANDOM mutations? It' like saying that factory can become city by random abrasion cogs and circuits in electronics. That is completly nonsense. IMHO reliance to evolution theory is not any proof. Err, they didn't just randomly evolve to humans. There was quite a lot of shit in between and it took billions of fucking years. Think about this: Mutations DO happen. Even if you don't believe in evolution, you can't argue that. Say someone was born with a third arm (and for whatever reason, it was never removed) and that third arm was really useful and didn't have any particularly nasty medical side-effects. Now say that person went on to reproduce and pass on that third arm gene. It would eventually appear again, and again, and again, until, after a long period of time, a sizable portion of the human race would have 3 arms. Eventually, we would be a three-armed race. More mutations would eventually rise and it goes on from there. Now, if the third arm had severe drawbacks and caused a lot of medical problems, it would eventually die out as it doesn't benefit the species at all. Now, I'm not saying that having a third arm is a plausible scenario at all, but it gets the general point across. We also do have proof, such as vestigial leg bones in whales and whatnot. I would very much like to hear Your explanation of how life on Earth came to be.
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Post by Matt on May 3, 2011 5:55:38 GMT
Ok so dinosaurs not even existed. We don't have any movie proof or peoples who saw life dinosaurs. movie proof? jurassic park (im sorry i just had to)
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Post by Matt on May 3, 2011 8:04:52 GMT
Evolution are random DNA mutations. Are you really belive that microbe can evolve to human by RANDOM mutations? It' like saying that factory can become city by random abrasion cogs and circuits in electronics. no. they are not similar at all factories dont reproduce and pass on genes.
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Post by Byamarro on May 3, 2011 9:25:23 GMT
"Think about this: Mutations DO happen. Even if you don't believe in evolution, you can't argue that. Say someone was born with a third arm (and for whatever reason, it was never removed) and that third arm was really useful and didn't have any particularly nasty medical side-effects. Now say that person went on to reproduce and pass on that third arm gene. It would eventually appear again, and again, and again, until, after a long period of time, a sizable portion of the human race would have 3 arms. Eventually, we would be a three-armed race. More mutations would eventually rise and it goes on from there."
Yea owcourse it is true, like microevolution (on example dog races). But Are You really belive that hordes of mutated cells created complicated systems like: circulatory system, nervous system, lymphatic system, respiratory system, digestive system or reproductive system? These system are ideally combined to work perfectly. Are You really think that fondling, mind etc. are created by series of random mutations? Ok I can belive that man evolved from monkey but if You ask me is it possible that heat soup evolved to human I will say: not.
"no. they are not similar at all factories dont reproduce and pass on genes."
Then let's say internet. If there will not be any human who use internet (so let's say that humans will die, now there is just internet web with millions of computers), are You fondling that computers (by random mutations of their softwares by on example electromagnetic impulses) can become robo human?
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Post by Sawslig Steve. And William. on May 3, 2011 10:23:57 GMT
Not true, actually. Some species have been identified from just a single bone... And it might well be that they're actually members of another species anyway.
All of those "skeletons"-- none of them were actually real. They were made up-- hoaxes. No evidence of them survives to the present day.
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Post by Sawslig Steve. And William. on May 3, 2011 10:25:07 GMT
Computers don't mutate or reproduce.
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Post by Byamarro on May 3, 2011 10:34:30 GMT
But softwares can
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