MERRY CROMBMAS!
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Post by MERRY CROMBMAS! on May 3, 2011 14:21:34 GMT
That is simple bacteria. You really belive that thunder hited a soup of acids etc. And KABUUUUUM! live organism with completed DNA is created (or TNA, or RNA or PNA there are many versions of genetic mediums)? 1 WRONG IN GENETIC MATERIAL AND WE CAN DIE, So you think that thunder made perfectly genetic material + this primitive life was can reproduct. Show me puddle what can reproducting after this puddle will be hit by a thunder. That isn't the first life form. That kind of bacteria appeared way after life first started on earth. First life forms were probably something like prions, which were made out of extremely simple organic molecules with an RNA (half as complex as DNA) chain attached to it. Those organisms eventually accepted other organic stuff, various carbon compounds to form carbohydrates. Just so you know, there was an experiment done imitating the conditions that were present on early earth where organic compounds did indeed form under those conditions. You have been proven wrong. Sure, the experiment lasted for several years, but it worked. But first there was mutations. If first there was mutations then how male and female was created? One cell divided to male and female? So it double mutated? In meiozis, genetic material is copied, and one is still original. So only one cell was can to be changed after meiozis. So it mean that one cell meiozed into female, and other cell meiozed into male what is IMPOSSIBLE that these 2 cells evolved and their mutation fit to them and made new reproductive system. No. Another misconception. You don't need two sexes for sexual reproduction. Early organisms, even some organisms still living today are bisexual. They have a "female" part, which accepts reproductive cells from other organisms, and a "male" part which gives of reproductive cells to be recieved by another organism. Those parts formed possibly during the volvox stage, where other single-celled organisms were absorbed into the cell community to serve as reproductive organs. There are on example factory robots. Are you trolling? When will it come clear to you that PROGRAMS CANNOT MUTATE? Robots and computer only do what they're told to. Nothing else. Absolutely nothing else TAnd You says that we at the begin was acid puddle... Acid puddles mean nothing... Acid puddles aren't just acid puddles. They're AMINO acid puddles. That form of acid is ORGANIC, and can therefore harbor life. Doesn't matter. You think that We was just acid puddle. Already explained in the above paragraph Yes, it matters. Electronic impulses are movement of electrons, not organic molecules. They cannot move anything on their own. Life, obviously, can. It was example of alternative life form in virtual space. In this example electricity problem don't exist because it don't matter. So, you're backing your theory with imaginary alternative worlds that aren't possible in the current universe? Well fuck me, there's a guy that's named Noel Gallagher that looks exactly like me in another, hypothetical universe! That must mean I'm Noel Gallagher!
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MERRY CROMBMAS!
Marmadyke
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Post by MERRY CROMBMAS! on May 3, 2011 14:27:34 GMT
Organic and unorganic things can evolve. But IMHO that is nonsense that everything come from pre-bacteria. And that this bacteria come from super ultra magical puddle hitted by magical Gandalf's thunder. No. In that case, my wall could be evolving. The sun is actually a creature with a fever. My chair is a dolphin. I'm on a horse. To evolve, primitve life was must to have genetic material. So how it created? I don't know any natural thing what can make something complicated like genetic material Genetic material is a strand of DNA or RNA made out of rudimentary elements. They formed just like methane, sulfur dioxide, and even water did. They're just complex molecules which happen to have certain properties. Organic molecules are things like carbon dioxide, proteins and other stuff. Not plastic or metal.
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Post by Byamarro on May 3, 2011 14:43:12 GMT
Don't matter what You think. RNA is not simple. Remember that it must be builded in correct sequence to make cell life and functional.
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Post by Sawslig Steve. And William. on May 3, 2011 14:48:41 GMT
RNA was probably initally only two or three atoms joined together. Then it grew. Through natural selection.
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Post by Byamarro on May 3, 2011 14:51:52 GMT
There can not be healthy, lifing organism with RNA with random sequence. It is like: Write random sequence to notepad and save it as .exe file. I'm sure that it will not work. RNA is not like block. It not must exist, it must exist in working sequence.
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Post by BAM CROMBIE'D on May 3, 2011 16:12:09 GMT
Ahh, finally done. Mut, amidoinitrite? not in the slightest, but byamarro's more wrong than you lot and I cba correcting everything as you were, gents
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Post by Sawslig Steve. And William. on May 3, 2011 16:23:59 GMT
Things weren't truly alive until RNA came together. But there were chemicals, and the RNA slowly built up through chemical means. See also: life in a test-tube.
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Post by Matt on May 4, 2011 4:56:47 GMT
Ahh, finally done. Mut, amidoinitrite? not in the slightest, but byamarro's more wrong than you lot and I cba correcting everything as you were, gents i luv ya brah
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Post by Sawslig Steve. And William. on May 4, 2011 5:09:28 GMT
I love your bra.
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Post by Byamarro on May 4, 2011 5:34:49 GMT
If think-ing is a result of random mutations and random genetic mixing, then what is the sense of this talk? What is the sense of think-ing? If sense is created by think-ing and think-ing don't have any sense, it will be true if I will say that sense is non-sense and sense don't exist, same as non-sense.
PS: There is sth wrong on forum. word T H I N K I N G always is converted to F O N D L I N G So I was must to write think-ing
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MERRY CROMBMAS!
Marmadyke
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Post by MERRY CROMBMAS! on May 4, 2011 5:40:16 GMT
Ahh, finally done. Mut, amidoinitrite? not in the slightest, but byamarro's more wrong than you lot and I cba correcting everything as you were, gents EDIT: >creationist complains about disprooving a false theory
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Post by Sawslig Steve. And William. on May 4, 2011 9:34:12 GMT
Lol Lester wins. XD.
Byam: That's a pretty serious problem. I'll get Matt right on fixing that.
Honest.
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Post by Sawslig Steve. And William. on May 4, 2011 9:34:57 GMT
Furthermore Mut, bugger off, you're crap at biology >.<.
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MERRY CROMBMAS!
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Post by MERRY CROMBMAS! on May 4, 2011 9:42:37 GMT
You lot could've helped me out a bit too.
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MERRY CROMBMAS!
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whoever thought of l?estosterone is a genius, its a brilliant name
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Post by MERRY CROMBMAS! on May 4, 2011 9:44:40 GMT
There can not be healthy, lifing organism with RNA with random sequence. It is like: Write random sequence to notepad and save it as .exe file. I'm sure that it will not work. RNA is not like block. It not must exist, it must exist in working sequence. Uhh, no. Why do you keep comparing life to informatics? They have nothing in common. And yes, there can be a living organism with random RNA. Since when are you a biological scientist qualified to say such concrete claims?
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